Session Start: Thu Jan 27 00:00:00 2011 Session Ident: #glitchpc [00:00] * Now talking in #glitchpc
[00:00] * Topic is 'Welcome to #glitchpc chat. Profanity, trolls, and impersonation are not welcome here. Street1 has become a Silent Keyboard. http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/savannah/obituary.aspx?page=lifestory&pid=139870551'
[00:00] * Set by jacky on Tue Mar 02 11:03:23
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[05:31]<@BC_Programming> wow my version of Darkplaces is almost 2 years out of date
[05:32]<+Mulreay> I have some cream in the fridge that is good 2days out of date
[05:32]<@BC_Programming> darkplaces is a Quake Engine btw
[05:32]<+pottsi> xD
[05:32]<+pottsi> i'll take the cream
[05:32]<+Mulreay> ahhh I did wnder
[05:33]<@BC_Programming> I've gone "update happy" again is all
[05:33]<+Mulreay> wonder*
[05:33]<@BC_Programming> the executable in the new version is almost 4 times the size
[05:33]<@BC_Programming> better check the changelog, it better have a good reason dammit
[05:34]<+Mulreay> ahh the words of cormack
[05:35]<@BC_Programming> Carmack*
[05:35]<@BC_Programming> and I believe they used plan files, heh
[05:36]<+Mulreay> carmack* damn I'm tired, can't type
[05:36]<@BC_Programming> hmm... "High quality shadowmapping" seems to be the main cool thing
[05:36]<@BC_Programming> not sure why that nearly quadrupled the file size but oh well
[05:42]<+Mulreay> mmm found a new game.... not sure if I like it yet. Plus it's just a demo, but only 5$ for the full game
[05:43]<+Mulreay> for anyone that fances it http://www.emcneill.com/aurora.html
[05:44]<+Mulreay> the music is kinda cool, the way he's done it that is
[05:44]<@BC_Programming> holy crap.... darkplaces now looks like a million times better then before, faster too
[05:44]<+Mulreay> cool
[05:44]<@BC_Programming> sorry just wandered around the first level for a bit
[05:44]<+Mulreay> heh np
[05:44]<@BC_Programming> the shadows are all dynamic and actually have that "fuzz" around the edge like you'd expect, rather then a sharp edge
[05:44]<+Mulreay> sweet
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[13:44] * sonicrules1234 wonders who is here
[14:03]<+Craig> Me
[14:03]<+Craig> Just started making my video when you showed up
[14:03]<+Craig> Hey BC you there?
[14:04]<sonicrules1234> Craig: What are you making a video of?
[14:05]<+Craig> The server map,
[14:05]<+Craig> showing off the castle, and such
[14:05]<+Craig> along with the minecart system, and the update to that the I added.
[14:05]<sonicrules1234> Still recording?
[14:05]<+Craig> Nope,
[14:05]<sonicrules1234> Aw
[14:05]<+Craig> its rendering
[14:05]<+Craig> You can be in the next one,
[14:05]<sonicrules1234> Also, when did you make the update?
[14:05]<sonicrules1234> Cool
[14:06] * sonicrules1234 gets on
[14:06]<sonicrules1234> Wait
[14:06]<+Craig> The update was made about 30 minutes ago, and works, moderatly flawlessly,
[14:06]<+Craig> what?
[14:06]<+Craig> Its rendering but should be stable.
[14:06]<sonicrules1234> There was a skeleton outside of the skeleton trap
[14:06]<+Craig> Yeah
[14:06] * sonicrules1234 wonders if its still there
[14:06]<+Craig> I kelled them
[14:06]<sonicrules1234> Awesome
[14:06] * sonicrules1234 logs back on
[14:07]<sonicrules1234> Not letting me on, I guess I'll have to wait until the rendering is done
[14:08]<+Craig> yeah
[14:08]<sonicrules1234> What format is it rendering it to?
[14:09]<+Craig> ... I think I lost it?
[14:10]<+Craig> You should be able to log in
[14:10]<+Craig> Camtasia
[14:10]<sonicrules1234> Lol, lag
[14:10]<+Craig> :P
[14:12]<sonicrules1234> Where is the modification to the track?
[14:12]<+Craig> in the castle
[14:15]<+Craig> Back in a sec, gonna start another recording.
[14:22]<+Mulreay> :) I'm missing all the fun
[14:23]<+Mulreay> that was supposed to be :(
[14:23]<+Mulreay> must be bi-polar
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[14:34]<sonicrules1234> I hope I'm not stuck
[14:34]<sonicrules1234> I was in a minecart when the server restarted
[14:34]<+Craig> Sorry about that, it removes the cart, and puts you above groun
[14:34]<+Craig> dd
[14:35]<sonicrules1234> Who knows where I'll be
[14:35]<+Craig> Wow, its rendering slowly. :P
[14:35]<+Craig> and the server is almost started again,
[14:35]<+Craig> sorry about the lack of warning with the restart
[14:35]<+Craig> its up, but it may be slow on the reconnect
[14:35]<sonicrules1234> Its okay
[14:36]<sonicrules1234> The server was being weird too
[14:36]<sonicrules1234> brb
[14:36]<+Craig> Yeah thats why I restarted
[14:46]<sonicrules1234> back
[14:46]<+Craig> Coo
[14:47]<sonicrules1234> Craig: Can you teleport me to you?
[14:48]<+Craig> I am not online at the moment
[14:48]<sonicrules1234> Aw
[14:48]<sonicrules1234> Ok
[14:48]<sonicrules1234> Tell me when you get back online. And tell me here in IRC
[14:48]<+Craig> Whats the point of that?
[14:49]<sonicrules1234> Because I'm not online minecraft right now either
[14:49]<sonicrules1234> And its night, and I'm in a random location
[14:49]<+Craig> .....
[14:50]<sonicrules1234> What?
[14:52]<sonicrules1234> Nvm, found my way now
[14:56]<+Mulreay> Craig i may be able to join your server soon
[14:56]<+Craig> Awesome!
[14:57]<+Mulreay> Just working on my second laptop, to see if I can get it online
[14:59]<+camerongray> cool
[15:00]<+Mulreay> I've been cannabilising my broken dell to add parts to the newer dell...
[15:02]<+camerongray> Ahh, the broken one being the one you stood on? :P
[15:03]<+Mulreay> Stood/stamped... yeah
[15:04]<+camerongray> lol
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[15:17]<+Mulreay> Completely unplayable
[15:17]<+Craig> Mulreay you still here?
[15:18]<+Mulreay> no
[15:18]<+Mulreay> sup?
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[15:23]<Mulreay> Sorry craig did you want me
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[15:26]<+Mulreay> Ding Dong.. craig you there?
[15:29]<+Mulreay> ok well just one time me if you need me
[15:58]<+Craig> Hello
[15:58]<+Craig> I was curious if you lost your connection Mulreay
[15:58]<+Craig> I guess you did, since you logged back in here,
[15:58]<+Mulreay> Nope,I can stay in there on the other laptop, but it is unplayable... not nearly enough RAM
[15:59]<+Craig> Awwww, what is it DDR2?
[15:59]<+Mulreay> DDR
[15:59]<+Craig> Or DDR1?
[15:59]<+Craig> ahh
[15:59]<+Mulreay> 512mb
[15:59]<+Craig> Yeah, I need more processor speed and better HDD access for my server
[15:59]<+Craig> Looks like I need that dual proc Opteron now... :p
[16:00]<+Mulreay> I just need a new gaming computer... as soon as I get work will start saving up and go crazy
[16:00]<+Craig> Nice, that would be awesome,
[16:00]<+Mulreay> Like 16gb of RAM or something mentle :P
[16:00]<+Craig> You could get an acer like mine, it is an excellent gaming computer.
[16:00]<+Craig> hahahah Nice
[16:00]<+Mulreay> Gonna build it
[16:00]<+Craig> My new server is planned to have 32GB ram and 8 cores @ 2.4Ghx
[16:00]<+Craig> Ghz*
[16:00]<+Mulreay> sweet
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[16:01]<+Craig> Yeah should be epic
[16:01]<+Craig> Hey Pottsi, you have minecraft?
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[16:01]<+Mulreay> hey pottsi
[16:01]<+pottsi> hey Mulreay
[16:01]<+pottsi> craig only classic
[16:02]<+Craig> Awww, dude get it
[16:02]<+pottsi> it fails on linux
[16:02]<+pottsi> afaik
[16:02]<+Mulreay> Craig: what's the best MB to run two graphics cards off?
[16:02]<+Craig> Why do you need two?
[16:02]<+Craig> And are you ATI, or Nvidia?
[16:02]<+Craig> *or do you want.
[16:03]<+Mulreay> Not sure, just researching again.. I'm looking at spending a couple of grand... my brother has dual graphics cards and he says it's epic
[16:04]<+Mulreay> Never really been up on graphics cards
[16:04]<+pottsi> couple of k?
[16:04]<+pottsi> send me 1k please
[16:04]<+Mulreay> heh
[16:05]<+Craig> Well, I would recommend just getting a very High end ATI 6970 or something, that sheirs through Crysis no probme.
[16:05]<+Mulreay> I have a file here that's about 1k.. will DCC it to you :p
[16:05]<+Craig> no problem*
[16:05]<+Craig> hahahah Nice
[16:05]<+Mulreay> cool craig
[16:05]<+pottsi> xD
[16:08]<+Mulreay> Nearly finished the roof on my new rail station
[16:08]<+pottsi> i found an iPhone 4 today
[16:08]<+Mulreay> cool
[16:09]<+pottsi> i handed it in
[16:09]<+Mulreay> Not handing it in?
[16:09]<+Mulreay> heh
[16:09]<+pottsi> yah
[16:09]<+pottsi> i always do
[16:09]<+pottsi> would be well pissed if it was my phone
[16:09]<+Mulreay> me too
[16:09]<+pottsi> ofc you do the usual
[16:09]<+pottsi> check for nudes and <censored>
[16:09]<+Mulreay> lol
[16:10]<+pottsi> #justsayin'
[16:10]<+pottsi> xD
[16:13]<+Mulreay> Anyone spoke to jacky?
[16:13]<+pottsi> yah
[16:13]<+Mulreay> Is he ok?
[16:14]<+pottsi> he is, his mother died
[16:14]<+Mulreay> damn, thought it would be that... <censored>
[16:14]<+pottsi> buried her on tuesday
[16:14]<+pottsi> iirc
[16:15]<+Mulreay> Will see if he comes on later and say hello
[16:15]<+Mulreay> thanks for the heads up
[16:32]<+Mulreay> OK roof is done...set out a long tester track... and the most intense, technical and intricate project I have ever done is ready for a test.... ooohhh I'm excited. It better work or I may cry
[16:33]<+Craig> http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/446/missingchunknicecave.jpg
[16:34]<+Craig> Nice
[16:34]<sonicrules1234> Wow
[16:34]<+Craig> Whats wow
[16:34]<sonicrules1234> That pic
[16:34]<+Craig> Heh yah
[16:36]<+Mulreay> COOL, it worked like a dream... just wish I could share it with you guys
[16:36]<+Mulreay> Will give a description
[16:36]<+Craig> AWESOME,
[16:37]<+Craig> You could zip the world, and I could put it on the server
[16:37]<+Mulreay> Mmm that would be cool, sure?
[16:38]<+Mulreay> OK zipping,
[16:42]<+Mulreay> Basically you press a button in the station and that tells the 'cart storage' room you want a cart a booster car then sends 1 of the 5 in storage to departures. There it hits a button in the track and waits for a travellor. When you get in that activates the button that sets off another booster car to get you started and you set off. When you come back to 'Arrivals' you hit 2 buttons on the
[16:42]<+Mulreay> track one senses the passanger the other senses the cart. As soon as you disembark from the cart that tells the switches to signal yet another booster cart that sends the cart back off to storage. NON of the booster carts start the process until the switches meet the requirements. Plus ALL carts return to there storage areas to be used again. Completely self sustaining system with no human
[16:42]<+Mulreay> interaction apart from calling the cart at the start
[16:43]<+Craig> Uhh do you have mods installed to accomplish that?
[16:44]<+Mulreay> nope
[16:44]<+Craig> Oh cool!
[16:44]<+Mulreay> Everything is standard stuff, lots of red stone wiring
[16:44]<+Mulreay> I have no mods at all on my game
[16:44]<+Craig> Nice
[16:45]<+Craig> Are you a minimal originalist?
[16:45]<+Mulreay> The what now?
[16:45]<+Craig> A non modded original game type person
[16:46]<+Mulreay> Yeah I like mine the way it is, I have used a texture pack in the past and I do hack items to allow for the grand designs I do.. but just materials nothing else
[16:47]<+Craig> Cool,
[16:47]<+Craig> How big is your zip?
[16:47]<+pottsi> kinky
[16:47]<+Mulreay> I hear people fly and all kinds of stuff... that takes the fun out of building in my opinion
[16:48]<+pottsi> HOW RUDE
[16:48]<+Mulreay> one sec
[16:48]<+Mulreay> 5.5mb
[16:48]<+Mulreay> lol
[16:49]<+Craig> Nice thats not too bad
[16:49]<+Mulreay> You want it?
[16:49]<+Craig> Yeah
[16:49]<+Craig> DCC?
[16:49]<+Mulreay> ohhh one sec
[16:49]<+Mulreay> problem
[16:49]<+Craig> ?
[16:49]<+Craig> WOW, the server map currently is 54.8 megs!
[16:50]<+Mulreay> Just need to change something and re-zip.. no biggy
[16:53]<+Mulreay> OK ready to DDC you if that'sok
[16:53]<+Mulreay> Sending
[16:53]<+Craig> Nice
[16:54]<+Mulreay> If I could just get some RAM for this dell laptop things would be better
[16:55]<+Mulreay> Then I can get on the server and play... ohh and please don't let people destroy my stuff :(
[16:56]<+Craig> Its only going to be online for a couple minutes to see it thats all
[16:56]<+Mulreay> Not that it matter at the moment as I can't get on and I have the file anyway
[16:56]<+Mulreay> Cool
[16:57]<+Mulreay> There is quite a bit to see if you look around. ALL my stuff is rather close to the main house so no big travelling. There is stuff at the back of the house as well
[16:58]<+Mulreay> Back as in inside the house
[16:58]<+Mulreay> But feel free to wonder and comment
[16:58]<+Craig> Sure I will let you know when it is up, were just digging at the moment
[17:03]<sonicrules1234> Craig: Is mulreays map on your server too?
[17:03]<+Mulreay> It will be soon, just for a look around
[17:03]<+Craig> Its going live in a couple seconds here
[17:04]<sonicrules1234> Craig: Also, there are some programs that will optomize maps and make their file size smaller
[17:04]<+Craig> Wow, that loaded fast
[17:04]<+Craig> Send me a link
[17:04]<sonicrules1234> Is the server back up?
[17:04]<+Craig> Yeah
[17:05]<sonicrules1234> Stuck at logging in
[17:05]<+Craig> WOW, a Obsidian structure
[17:05]<+Craig> Heh and a castle in the clouds thats awesome
[17:05]<+Mulreay> Yeah, never doing that again
[17:05]<+Mulreay> the obsidian
[17:05]<+Craig> Hahah,
[17:05]<+Craig> The boat looks awesome
[17:05]<+Mulreay> boat? That's the HMS Mulreay
[17:05]<+Mulreay> Ship
[17:06]<+Craig> Heh Nice
[17:06]<+Craig> I like the little river and micro bridge
[17:06]<+Mulreay> heh
[17:06]<+Mulreay> That goes into the greenhouse
[17:07]<+Craig> How do you use the reverse bungie?
[17:07]<+Mulreay> You have to fill in the bits with TNT from the box
[17:08]<+Craig> ah
[17:08]<+Mulreay> So fill in the missing shapes on all four sides then stand on the switch
[17:08]<+Mulreay> It sends you up SO far
[17:08]<+Mulreay> Not recommended without diamond armour
[17:09]<+Craig> Oh now he tells me...
[17:09]<+Mulreay> lol
[17:09]<+Mulreay> You should get away with it though with normal armour
[17:10]<+Mulreay> but don't hold me to that
[17:10]<+Craig> hahaha
[17:11]<+Mulreay> what?
[17:11]<+Craig> Were gonna have to reload the map... The reverse bungie got broked...
[17:11]<+Mulreay> how?
[17:11] * sonicrules1234 waits
[17:11]<+Mulreay> It'smade of obsidian
[17:12]<sonicrules1234> Mulreay: Its all glitchy
[17:12]<+Craig> I broked it, by putting TNT where its not supposed to go, its ok, the Ob is there, its the sand and me that went missing... :P
[17:12]<+Mulreay> lol
[17:12]<+Mulreay> sonicrules1234 not my save. Just obviously the server stuff
[17:13]<sonicrules1234> Yeah
[17:13]<+Craig> Heh you spelled your name in stone, :)
[17:13]<sonicrules1234> Craig: Is the server restarted?
[17:13]<+Mulreay> Yeah hehe
[17:13]<+Craig> Not gonna right now, just playing through
[17:13]<+Mulreay> You should check out the pit once you have tried the railway
[17:14]<+Craig> I like the fireplace
[17:14]<+Mulreay> heh that is what started the original fire... all that brick used to be wood
[17:16]<+Craig> So I am in the cart, how do I get goinga?>
[17:16]<+Mulreay> it will start itself
[17:17]<+Craig> I am not moving yet, how long do I wait?
[17:17]<+Mulreay> mmm that sounds wrong
[17:17]<+Mulreay> did the cart just show up?
[17:17]<+Mulreay> on the station?
[17:17]<+Craig> no, bout a minute
[17:17]<+Craig> Oh yea
[17:18]<+Mulreay> Did you press the button?
[17:18]<+Mulreay> or add your own cart
[17:19]<+Craig> Button
[17:19]<+Mulreay> are you still there?
[17:19]<+Mulreay> on the station
[17:20]<+Craig> Yeah
[17:20]<+Mulreay> OK remove the cart and press the button again
[17:21]<+Mulreay> There are a few in storage
[17:21]<sonicrules1234> Tell me when its back up
[17:22]<+Mulreay> Just make sure you only right-click to get in and out
[17:22]<+Craig> Reloading the server, see if it was my fault.
[17:22]<+Mulreay> don't jump on the cart
[17:22]<+Craig> ok
[17:22]<+Mulreay> not saying you did,
[17:22]<+Mulreay> but
[17:22]<+Craig> No worries,
[17:23]<+Mulreay> It's VERY inticate so maybe just a one off glitch... If it happens again, destroy the cart and re-press the switch to get another. then right click to get in and wait for the booster
[17:23]<+Mulreay> intricate*
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[17:23]<+Craig> SWEET ! Works
[17:24]<+Mulreay> cool
[17:24]<+Mulreay> Read the sign in arrivals when you arrive
[17:24]<+Mulreay> to your right
[17:24]<+Mulreay> LEFT
[17:24]<+Mulreay> sorry
[17:25]<+Craig> I dont understand how you did that but thats EPIC
[17:25]<+Mulreay> Have a look around, you can walk around the maintenance rooms
[17:25]<+Mulreay> Just don't step on the switches
[17:26]<+Mulreay> Did you see the cart go back to storage?
[17:29]<+Mulreay> Glad you liked though :) Took about 6hrs of work in all
[17:30]<+Craig> wow
[17:30]<+Craig> Yeah it was awesome,
[17:30]<+Craig> good start for an excellent cart system, just needs a exploring track
[17:30]<+Mulreay> Yeah that's next, just finished the building to cover the station
[17:31]<+Mulreay> Check out the PIT that's prity cool... dug out by hand and nothing else
[17:31]<+Mulreay> As in pics
[17:31]<+Craig> ... fell down it already,
[17:31]<+Mulreay> lol
[17:31]<+Mulreay> There are stairs
[17:32]<+Craig> I said fell, not jump... :P
[17:32]<+Mulreay> There are slip gates in the obsidian castle as well, and there is a volcano behind it to the right
[17:32]<+Mulreay> The volcano needs work
[17:35]<+Mulreay> For me the reverse bungy is awesome, if you load it right and make sure your stood right on the button when it goes off. Just make sure you load it correctly. I know what the shape kinda looks like but that is just a bi-product of the most efficient design
[17:37]<+Craig> Its really cool Mulreay
[17:37]<+Mulreay> Did you try it?
[17:37]<+Craig> .. yeah I died twice,
[17:37]<+Craig> :P
[17:37]<+Craig> and its really loud. :P
[17:38]<+Mulreay> It works great with diamond armour
[17:38]<sonicrules1234> Craig likes killing me
[17:38]<+Craig> I died with that too.. :P
[17:38]<+Mulreay> You fly about 500ft straight up
[17:38]<+Craig> Nice
[17:38]<+Craig> Didnt work for me
[17:39]<+Mulreay> It does work though, shame that
[17:39]<sonicrules1234> I got him back just before disconnecting >:D
[17:39]<+Mulreay> oh I have an idea craig
[17:39]<+Craig> Ok, normal map is back online
[17:39]<+Craig> Oh?
[17:39]<sonicrules1234> I still think we should make that dispenser defence wall
[17:39]<+Mulreay> Put the setting on peaceful and then try it, but your back to normal now... never no mind
[17:40]<+Mulreay> Did you check my stuff out sonicrules1234?
[17:40]<sonicrules1234> Yeah, it was cool
[17:41]<+Mulreay> heh, thanks. Did you ride 'Mulreay Rail'?
[17:41]<+Craig> Peaceful doesnt work on the server. :)
[17:41]<+Craig> Yeah the rail was awesome
[17:41]<+Mulreay> ahhh ok
[17:42]<+Mulreay> If I could get on your server with a network card that works or my other laptop with some more RAM I would build you one
[17:42]<+Craig> THAT WOULD BE EPIC!
[17:43]<+Mulreay> My new station will be the station on the floor and all the working below ground
[17:43]<+Mulreay> That would take a long time though
[17:44]<+Mulreay> But the track is next... i only ran that track to test the system
[17:45]<+Mulreay> I'm getting good with red stone now as well, should help in the future for more crazy designs
[17:45]<+Mulreay> Craig: Did you have a look around the maintenace areas of the station?
[17:46]<+Craig> Yeah, thats crazy
[17:46]<+Mulreay> You could always copy it.. and then there is a door that leads down to the red stone area
[17:47]<+Craig> I think it would be a great project for you when you are able to join the server, :)
[17:47]<+Mulreay> Heh thanks buddy would love to add it
[17:48]<+Mulreay> Any idea where I could get some laptop grade DDR sticks of RAM from?
[17:49]<+Craig> Aks cameron, he would know the best UK locations
[17:49]<+Mulreay> true
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[17:50]<+Craig> Sonic cant run the game either, his laptop keeps getting too hot apparently....
[17:51]<+Mulreay> mmm strange,
[17:52]<+Mulreay> Needs to clean it out. Must be overheating due to the GPU
[17:53]<+Mulreay> Or I'm talking nonsense
[17:53]<+Craig> Sounded good to me
[17:54]<+Mulreay> My laptop used to crash when playing games, google earth and videos for example. I cleaned the inerds out and now it's fine. But I do strip this down about once every 3 months and give it a good clean
[17:55]<+Mulreay> Now I know what I'm doing
[17:55]<+Mulreay> I can't see it being anything else
[17:58]<+Craig> You shoiuld see how long this freakin tunnel is.
[17:58]<+Mulreay> heh
[17:58]<+Mulreay> Wish I could
[17:59]<+Mulreay> Oh and have you set a prison on your server?
[17:59]<+Craig> Dont know how, basically, I just have to set who is from untrusted -1 to trusted or mod, admin, or owner
[18:00]<+Mulreay> Yeah I get prisons... but you put me in one.. heh.. do you not trust me?
[18:00]<+Craig> Huh?
[18:01]<+Mulreay> When I joined your server I was in a prison
[18:01]<+Craig> I think that was my underground collection, not a prison?
[18:01]<+Craig> Where were you on the map?
[18:01]<+Craig> I could teleport you to me, then you could see the hall?
[18:02]<+Mulreay> No idea, but no matter where I went I ended up in the same place, I could not leave the room
[18:02]<+Craig> Might be faster now too, since I have optimized the server, am no longer rendering
[18:02]<+Mulreay> I could say hello, but won't be able to play. Will join now
[18:02]<+Craig> awesome
[18:03]<+Mulreay> Need to close all processes that are RAM intensive
[18:03]<+Mulreay> 1min
[18:03]<+Craig> ok waiting
[18:04]<+Mulreay> OK in, I'm getting fast at this stuff
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[18:06]<+Mulreay> ooohhh it's now playable, I removed loads of processes and now I can see outside been able to add more fog
[18:07]<+Mulreay> Well it stutters but not to bad
[18:10]<+Mulreay> The GPU can handle it no problem the RAM is chocking
[18:10]<+Craig> Cool,
[18:11]<+Craig> Try running the Java file with this,
[18:11]<+Craig> -Xmx256m -Xms32m -XX:+UseConcMarkSweepGC -XX:+UseParNewGC -XX:+CMSIncrementalPacing -XX:ParallelGCThreads=1 -XX:+AggressiveOpts -jar
[18:11]<+Craig> Sorry this, java -Xmx256m -Xms32m -XX:+UseConcMarkSweepGC -XX:+UseParNewGC -XX:+CMSIncrementalPacing -XX:ParallelGCThreads=2 -XX:+AggressiveOpts -jar
[18:11]<+Craig> with only one thread
[18:12]<+Mulreay> Not sure how I would do that, never really used java
[18:12]<+Mulreay> as in worked with it
[18:12]<+Craig> Here I will send you a bat file.
[18:12]<+Mulreay> cool thx
[18:13]<+Mulreay> It's fast for about 1min then it starts lagging
[18:13]<+Mulreay> if I stand still it gets better
[18:13]<+Craig> Put this in a text file, @echo off
[18:13]<+Craig> java -Xmx256m -Xms32m -XX:+UseConcMarkSweepGC -XX:+UseParNewGC -XX:+CMSIncrementalPacing -XX:ParallelGCThreads=1 -XX:+AggressiveOpts -jar Minecraft.jar
[18:13]<+Craig> pause
[18:13]<+Craig> Then save it as launch.bat, and put it in the same folder as your minecraft.jar
[18:14]<+Mulreay> ok
[18:14]<+Mulreay> thx
[18:14]<+Mulreay> will have to transfer it to the other laptop may take a few minutes
[18:14]<+Craig> Test it on a new map first, then wait about 2 minutes
[18:15]<+Craig> ok
[18:19]<+Mulreay> You do mean a batch file yeah... sorry making sure I don't mess up
[18:19]<+Craig> Yeah a batch file, or Bat file,
[18:20]<+Mulreay> Just checking
[18:20]<+Mulreay> How'sthis looking?
[18:20]<+Mulreay> {\rtf1\ansi\ansicpg1252\deff0\deflang2057{\fonttbl{\f0\fswiss\fcharset0 Arial;}}
[18:20]<+Mulreay> {\*\generator Msftedit 5.41.21.2509;}\viewkind4\uc1\pard\f0\fs20 @echo off\par
[18:20]<+Mulreay> java -Xmx256m -Xms32m -XX:+UseConcMarkSweepGC -XX:+UseParNewGC -XX:+CMSIncrementalPacing -XX:ParallelGCThreads=1 -XX:+AggressiveOpts -jar Minecraft.jar\par
[18:20]<+Mulreay> pause\par
[18:20]<+Mulreay> }
[18:21]<+Craig> Was that a rich text file?
[18:21]<+Mulreay> no
[18:21]<+Mulreay> will try again
[18:22]<+Mulreay> it'sok, my mistake, the file got mixed
[18:27]<+Mulreay> OK just need to open file locations in XP, will work it out
[18:27]<+Craig> Let me know if you need anything
[18:28]<+Mulreay> Yeah need to work out how to open the file location for minecraft on XP... sorry not used an XP computer for about 5yrs
[18:29]<+Mulreay> plus this laptop is getting warm... I need to clean it out soon.. I guarentee it's NEVER been done. Plus will be swapping the keyboard out.. just as an off note
[18:30]<+Mulreay> Oh 0k I remember
[18:33]<+Mulreay> Actually that did not work tried right clicking 'properties' but no file location... mmm
[18:41]<+Mulreay> ok need help finding the minecraft files
[18:42]<+Craig> Did you put the bat file in the same folder as the originally downloaded jar file?
[18:42]<+Craig> Not in the Minecraft folder.
[18:42]<+Mulreay> no idea hoe
[18:42]<+Mulreay> oops
[18:42]<+Mulreay> No idea how to find any of that. The bat file is on my desktop
[18:43]<+Craig> And thats where the minecraft jar is?
[18:43]<+Mulreay> The exe is on the desktop
[18:44]<+Craig> Oh, sorry you have to download the Jar version and have that on your desktop,
[18:44]<+Mulreay> Ohhh shivers I'm about to learn something
[18:44]<+Craig> :P
[18:44]<+Mulreay> ok
[18:48]<+Mulreay> Brb I know it may sound strange but I'm talking with a professor about science articles on my website...
[18:49]<+Mulreay> And he can hear me typing, I keep telling him it's just solving a server problem :p
[18:55]<+Mulreay> writing an article on what my guy has said.. will only take 30mins or so
[18:55]<+Craig> Alright, let us know if your coming back online, I was looking forward to it.
[18:56]<+Craig> :)
[18:56]<+Mulreay> I'm still online
[18:57]<@BC_Programming> Craig: there is no "jar version"; the only executable you can download uses the jar file. when you install MC it's in %appdata%\.Minecraft\bin
[18:57]<+Craig> heh we saw that,
[18:57]<+Craig> There is a Jar file for Linux that works perfect in windows, trust me
[19:00]<@BC_Programming> what does that have to do with anything I just said? You ALWAYS HAVE a jar file, there is no ".jar version" and ".exe version"
[19:01]<+Craig> The code I am telling him to run cannot be used in conjunction with the exe, only the jar loader file.
[19:01]<@BC_Programming> yeah? you said he had to "download" the
[19:01]<@BC_Programming> "Jar Version"
[19:01]<@BC_Programming> there is no "jar version" or "exe version" if you have minecraft installed, you have the jar
[19:02]<@BC_Programming> he just has to run the commands on that jar file
[19:02]<+Craig> I dont mean that Minecraft file, I mean the one that you run to start minecraft and download the playing files eventually.
[19:03]<@BC_Programming> so what does he need to download?
[19:03]<+Craig> http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp Under Linux.
[19:05]<@BC_Programming> that's simply a different launcher
[19:06]<+Craig> Yes, but with the code that I gave mulreay, Java should use less ram and run more smoothly.
[19:06]<@BC_Programming> while the launcher is running, once it launches minecraft itself it'll load a new instance of javaw.exe that uses the switches that the launcher gives
[19:06]<+Mulreay> still writing my article
[19:07]<@BC_Programming> no doubt it doesn't duplicate it's command line and pass that to the new instance
[19:07]<@BC_Programming> actually I'll find out using procexp, it very well may
[19:07]<+Craig> Well then you figure out a way to make it run better in the launcher?
[19:09]<@BC_Programming> just tried... ran the jar with the command line, logged in, and was sitting at the menu
[19:10]<@BC_Programming> commandline for javaw at that point was "javaw -Xmx1024m -Dsun.java2d.noddraw=true -Dsun.java2d.d3d=false -Dsun.java2d.opengl=false -Dsun.java2d.pmoffscreen=false -classpath /C:/Users/BC_Programming/AppData/Roaming/.minecraft/compareit/minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame"
[19:10]<@BC_Programming> which is actually a tad weird because it's still running the first jar but with different arguments for some reason
[19:12]<@BC_Programming> what about running the normal minecraft jar with those interpreter arguments, that should work
[19:14]<+Craig> I dont know how to do that, but if it works, I wouldnt mind having that same fix, :P
[19:14]<@BC_Programming> hmm it just complains about not being able to determine the main class
[19:16]<@BC_Programming> what is that a fix for?
[19:17]<+Craig> Java operates more efficiently, and can use multiple tasks if you want it to,
[19:17]<+Craig> it works with about 3, after that there is no point,
[19:18]<+Craig> Threads*
[19:18]<+Craig> Also your setting the amount of ram, and also making it cleanup after itself more aggressivly,
[19:20]<@BC_Programming> java by default runs the grabage collector on a another thread, so there's no reason to have that switch; markandsweep is the <less> aggressive cleanup method (stop and copy is the less RAM intensive one), and aggressive is the default setting forthe JIT
[19:20]<@BC_Programming> actually that sort of explains why the commandline seems so different
[19:20]<+Craig> You say that, but it works on my server...
[19:21]<@BC_Programming> I just checked it myself. I ran the "linux" jar file using the commandline, and when minecraft was sitting at the menu looked at the command line
[19:23]<@BC_Programming> It was clearly different, because the launcher has the commandline hardcoded in net\minecraft\MineCraftlauncher.jar
[19:23]<@BC_Programming> sorry .class
[19:23]<@BC_Programming> wonder why it disables D3d and opengl though
[19:26]<+Mulreay> ok what do you think?
[19:26]<+Mulreay> http://www.spaceandscience.co.uk/index.php/articlesresourcemain/42-sciencearticles/796-the-end-of-the-world-in-2012-science-communication-and-science-scares.html
[19:27]<@BC_Programming> I dunno mulreay, I think maybe the thousand and 10th time might be the charm
[19:27]<@BC_Programming> heh
[19:30]<+Mulreay> I do try
[19:35]<+Mulreay> hey BC_Programming you missed the run around on Craig server for my world
[19:35]<@BC_Programming> ?
[19:36]<+Mulreay> Craig loaded my world onto his server for him and sonicrules1234 to run aroung they played on my rather wonderful train system
[19:37]<@BC_Programming> good for them
[19:38]<+Mulreay> Yeah maybe
[19:38]<@BC_Programming> I'm working on a gigantic sky mob trap like I saw in a youtube vid
[19:39]<@BC_Programming> will have to use the cobblestone I dub out in creating my gold tunnel
[19:39]<@BC_Programming> might not be enough though, but I have the main floor and redstone circuits setup pretty well the same
[19:42]<+Mulreay> I need to restart... mmm second laptop
[19:45]<sonicrules1234> Craig: Are you getting off for the night?
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[19:45]<+Craig> Not sure,
[19:45]<whoopaa> anyone know Graham he owes me £300
[19:45]<+Craig> ?
[19:46]<@BC_Programming> I like crackers
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[19:46]<whoopaa> I'll catch him
[19:47]<@BC_Programming> k good luck with that there whoopaa
[19:47]<+Craig> Heh
[19:47]<@BC_Programming> I think he may have gone down that long forboding tunnel to your left
[19:48]<@BC_Programming> don't worry, I assure you there is no doubt a cake and a party at the end
[19:48]<+Craig> HAHAHAHAHA
[19:48]<+Craig> brb
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[19:52]<+Mulreay> brb
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[19:54]<+Craig> back
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[20:10]<+Mulreay> Anyone arond?
[20:10]<+Craig> I am
[20:10]<+Mulreay> around*
[20:27]<sonicrules1234> Craig: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=15522
[20:27]<sonicrules1234> MCEdit
[20:27]<@BC_Programming> what about it
[20:27]<+Craig> Anti forrest fire...
[20:27]<@BC_Programming> ahh I see
[20:33]<sonicrules1234> Craig: Tell me when you are done editing it
[20:34]<+Craig> I gotta figure it out first...
[20:58]<+Craig> This is frustrating...
[21:04]<+Craig> Hmmm simpler once I found the find and replace tool. :-D
[21:05]<+Craig> Ok, sonic its back up
[21:12]<+Mulreay> Can I pm you craig?
[21:12]<+Craig> shoot
[21:19]<+Craig> Craig's gonna make him some popcorn!
[21:31]<+Mulreay> I have nothing
[21:35]<+Mulreay> Mulreay is gonna make somethig
[21:46]<sonicrules1234> Craig: You there?
[21:47]<+Mulreay> night, night
[21:49]<+Craig> I'm eating popcorn
[21:50]<sonicrules1234> Craig: What happened to the server?
[21:50]<sonicrules1234> Its like it regenerated in that spot
[21:51]<@BC_Programming> chunks were deleted as opposed to having say fire blocks replaced
[21:51]<sonicrules1234> >.<
[21:52]<sonicrules1234> So I bet some of our stuff was deleted as well
[21:52]<@BC_Programming> if they regenerated, the railway tracks did run beneath the forest fire
[21:53]<sonicrules1234> Yeah
[21:53]<sonicrules1234> Probably have to rebuild a lot
[21:53]<@BC_Programming> or he could just revert to a backup and try to edit it again
[21:53]<+Craig> I don't see any fire
[21:53]<sonicrules1234> Craig: Yeah, but stuff got overwritten
[21:53]<+Craig> ?
[21:54]<@BC_Programming> from the sounds of it the chunks were deleted so the game regenerated them "fresh"
[21:54]<+Craig> where?
[21:54]<sonicrules1234> Craig: Where I was
[21:54]<+Craig> w2here were you
[21:54]<sonicrules1234> Lemme get on, and you can teleport to me
[22:08]<sonicrules1234> :(
[22:31]<+Craig> Hmmm
[22:35]<@BC_Programming> stupid wind waker triforce piece fetch quest
[22:36]<+Craig> For some reason the server stops without warning?
[22:36]<@BC_Programming> I don't know
[22:37]<+Craig> Anyway its back up, and I fixed the skeleton trap
[22:37]<+Craig> :)
[22:37]<@BC_Programming> yeah I was done tbh, just wanted to see what sonic was blathering about with regeneration
[22:38]<@BC_Programming> also got to see the new path and railway junction
[22:38]<@BC_Programming> oh right before it crashed I added a lever to the side of the railway that goes from the lighthouse to the castle/station
[22:38]<+Craig> hehhe, are you not wanting to evr plat on the server?
[22:38]<+Craig> a lever?
[22:39]<@BC_Programming> it can be flipped to guide arriving carts to the station instead of the castle
[22:39]<+Craig> ahhh! cool
[22:39]<@BC_Programming> I was going to extend it to be inside the stationhouse
[22:39]<@BC_Programming> may do that now
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[23:24]<+Craig> night guys
[23:24]<@BC_Programming> night